Im sure he only said it was a joke because he was trying to save his ego. He sold it. Theyre not sincere friends if any of their support is conditional. And if she then tells her bf that you suspect hes one and he is, he will make your life miserable. Its maddening. Oh, and I want to be the first to say that my experiences pale in comparison to some women who have posted here and on other sites. I was devastated I couldnt believe what was happening to me. After months of drama and him being distant (but at the same time saying he loved me and that he wanted to grow old with me), I broke up with him. Once she knew that the image reflected in my eyes is not what she desires to see (because I told her) gone. And most Ns dont have the will to face themselves. I would also go with Option 1. It surprised me, thought she was married to the guy she lives with. In the end, though, I won. If this person is a narcissist, its best that the child in question has no contact with them, anyway. And there is a scared inmature little person who is scared of live and everything in it. Mine seemed disinterested and almost pretended they were not there. Jason, from one guy to another it aint easy getting over this. It is sooo difficult when they are the nice narcissist. But sadly I dont see that happening. http://www.stovolando.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screen-Shot-2013-11-10-at-20.06.04.png. For example, lets say that you were to use the no contact rule on your ex boyfriend for 30 days. I went from the frying pan to the fire!! Also, you are likely experiencing effects of trauma bonding, which is a cognitive, bio-chemical attachment we form to our abuser. So, I shut him down. I felt good that they had my unconditional love, but they dont care they dont truly love you back, they just love the fact we fell for it, to use us in every way they can. If you had started dating him again it would not have been long before he would have discarded you again. Those were my last words to him. You can find more of his work here on WordPress, at thoughtcatalog.com. She would tell me how things she did to me would make her sick to her stomach, etc. . Well after reading these messages.. But the worst thing is yet to come. [] Hoovering Creating the false illusion that he/she is sorry for their cruelty. I relented once or twice and regretted it. What a miserable life. Why feel the need to approach and tell me this info and come to me with a crazy offer????? The dynamic is different from normal in so far as this is a group of people who take part in a sport I dont actually have to specifically spend time with this person but he is always there an omnipresence and vocal with it as you would expect its all about him the notion that he is as I suspect him to be is quite unambiguous. I know the danger of having Contact which is that all of the things listed above may be tucked away and the cycle could repeat itself. Try meditation if you can. They contact you . Im new to the revelation of having been with not one but two narcissists. Reading your comment was as if I had written it myself. RodMan, TRUST ME when I say this new guy is getting it too. Do they send clues or try to spy to see if you are still alive? You cant go to a no contact sone and get easier over it like people with no children. He said all of that in the shop because he wanted to see if he could win you back. So you have the option of reaching out to your ex without it causing damage. The last four years together ( out of 8 ) were hell! I have learned so much by reading about NPD, sociopaths, etc., and I am grateful to know I am not the crazy one, even though I feel badly that other people have had to go through the same things! Not many, just a few. In your situation it must be even harder. You may feel obsessed with the idea that by going back over every word and action that took place between you, you can see into the future. I definitely have some work on myself I need to do though. Why Cant I Just Leave? He then dragged me by the hair of my head out of our home and locked me out. So I fled to clear my head, get all the support legal and otherwise, and am now returning to finslise this. Block him and move on. I know I was . Thanks for stopping by and sharing. I dont know whether your ex-partner will ever hoover you again. Saying they had to end it because they were a victim of your ways and not the other way around. Is It Not A Form Of Control Over You? Good for you! Nothing happened. I didnt until I met mine. On one of the sites the question had been if psycho women bring less ego into relationship, then psycho men, I wrote no and explained why. After all, if he is used to being a father, he is probably already adept at dealing with a female borderline/narcissist to some degree. I did and I am so much happier now. They devalue you and criticize everything you do. PS. As soon as I read, he treated me like a queen when he wasnt a crazy maker the BPD read signalled in my brain. I am finally feeling free but I know when his latest partner has her fill he will come looking for me. Imagine being a woman in an extremely religious lifestyle (Amish, Mennonite, etc) where you are taught to be submissive and beneath your husband and men in general and are dealing with narcassism . It has modules for healing and rebuilding and the BEST private forum out there for encouragement and support. I made a decision I was going to leave, gave him til the end of the week to reassure me he wasnt playing me, that we had a future or I have to go. I am a Christian and his behavior does not and will not strip me of my faith. We maxed out my credit. At that time, during dropping off my daughter to him, he grabbed at my breasts claiming he still owned them cuz he paid child support. Hi Jan, thanks for sharing your experience. Here are 10 things a narcissist does when you start to use No Contact with them: 1. But I have finally accepted who he is and that he cant and wont change and that there is no future for us. Very clear for the first time. Once the child pulls away, be prepared for the father to respond in ways that cause the child extreme pain. I have a lot to offer a person that walks with me on my path of life. Xx. This gives them a great advantage over us. Our family had never fallen out until Dad died. I have been practicing the no contact for almost a year, very hard! NEXT, I am a small woman and live on my ownnobody. Not me. Id never met her children The judge gave us a court date for a couple of weeks (figure that one out?!!) Sally, if he is truly a Narcissist, then this is indeed a hoovering attempt. I have not answered him after an ugly/public breakup (he is a front man for a semi-popular band and has a serious drug addition which he refused to get help for) and he left me for a groupie who adores and idolizes him. This gave me some food for thought. Weve both defriended him on all our social networks. You perfectly described my last relationship of the past 4 years. Grrrr so bad!!! He waited another two months and begged me to call. How to take control away from a Narcissist? Will she change her mind and get in touch with me? I am so glad I found this blog! Thank you Fellow Survivor, that makes a lot of sense. But he beat me to it!! The plan is to keep you within reach. Now, its been almost three months since the ex has seen me at all. Id never been to her house Yesterday i missed him so bad i almost texted him!! They broke up a week before the contact but he was still pretending they were together, sick really!! I have been so confused by the 180 mine did going from you can come back any time despite being emotionally abusive every other interaction, to now acting like I have been so horrible to him he cant stand to be in a room with me even for our kids teacher conferences or IEP meetings. Thing is my ex was meant to be picking kids up and the end of our street but hes been pulling up outside our home for them and when he does he says things like whats for tea, you want me to come back over tonight dont you , smile Im only joking hell say. Maybe its only that. Even as a friend, theyll play the same games they played when you were in a relationship such as revenge, playing the victim, triangulation, and gaslighting. I was the one who had changed. Should I be on my guard. So, when the cops called they said unfortunately they couldnt charge him because he now is alleging I theeatened too. I have since found out that all the abuse that she told me she had suffered at the hands of every man she had been in a relationship with was a complete lie to rope me in. Whats the attraction? This was just about a month and a half ago. How can a narc go from highly sexual to needing more if a frienship in a relationship?? Others who actually saw things go down actually stepped up to say what happened. -A slow, disappearing of self and sharing a life of meaning (this one is hard to see as it is happening) Typically, people who seek professional help do so because they have a level of self-awareness thats given them insight into their mental and emotional state. Never happy, always thinking of nobody else but themselves. sent me a love song via email. I have mine blocked but when I get the urge I switch to my Bible app and read James All I can hope for w/ my NPD/BPD is that Life serves him a cold dish of karma, and perhaps a nice swift kick right where he needs it, so the he wont be so obsessed w/ funstuff, or play a person like a toy for a long, long whileand I hope Ill be around to hear about it. What this last year has done for me is start to see him for he really is and allow my love for him to begin to wither and die. Then went on to state that if any man came near me hed dismember them and bury them. Twist a story to their advantage as if their the victim, and yet, their the culprit. I thought the same when my ex found his new supply. Then I did no contact again for 90 days. I think he will probably try again with you and when hes certain youre done he will try to make u miserable..by being difficult with the kids and whatever he can do to push your buttons. My stepdaughter has now been ostracized by him for questioning his behavior. He is over committef financially, yet says him and the new girl are thinking of renting a house together. My words to him were I forgive you because I know you are a tortured soul. I hope you get some help because I think you have a lot of potential. I am the ho, bitchI am not getting any help and find it very hard to ask for help. Al those weekends he never answerd my tons of textings never. I did not even ask her about the money. Studies prove that people with narcissistic personality traits, maintain contact with their exes because theyve got something to gain such as sex or resources like money. Later that week Im on the beach, and here they come while tending her dogs he stood next to me and small talk. What does he want from me? The next day, i found the remote, so I texted him just to tell him not to bother looking for it. He met her and things scalated quickly to the point he is pretty much leaving me and our 3 year old. -Financial Exploitation. Ive realized something very scaryMy ex Narc and I share something in commonWE ARE BOTH IN LOVE WITH HIS FAKE IMAGE. Its been six months. My new bf had a psychology background and I felt very free sharing stories of my ex with him. Why you put up with it all. The problem is they can never view themselves objectively, so your efforts are fruitless. They are tortured souls that cant be fixed. It was not until she text me that her money had come in and she would be sending me the money out ASAP, that she went dormant all of a sudden. I tried to ignore them simply because I had no understanding of NPD at that point. I realize that sounds contradictory. Type 2: they manipulate knowingly and enjoy it. Narcs cant admit real hurtespecially when they know you are finally serious about dumping them. So condescending. Im just wondering how to handle a narcissistic man who has to be in my life due to my child. Certainly dont miss the drama. He left me for someone else. A Narc will do the same thing to his next target. Reading Suggestion: How to Piss Off a Narcissist? Im in a great relationship. I thought I lost a gold ring until seven months after discovering in a shop display for sale. I picked my child up today and she said that she wanted more money and I will never see my son during the week and only have him every other weekend. When I broke up with him in Feb and he contacted me in May I finally told him what I thought of him. I tend to be biased, I guess, because my Ex is one of the malignant ones, and I often leave out the fact that not all Narcissists are as sadistic as my Ex. I love this app especially since any number on your blocked list wont go to voicemail. Narcissists love dating empaths because they can tap into their sea of emotions. In fact, your ex would probably be annoyed and even angry at you. While they have moved on to someone new, they may reach out to see how receptive you are if they see something that reminds them of you. Started punishing me . Went shopping what i ussualy do with him. He sounds like he could be a Narc however, now that Ive been in a relationship with one, I sometimes feel a little paranoid when I meet a new guy. Theyll use this opportunity to butter you up and tell you how awesome you are, that theyre still in love with you, and if you cant be lovers, theyll settle for just friends. 3 years takes my money my water bill is due and I have no way to pay it and he knows I can afford and reconnect fee. She has control of me Im a copper too! The emotionally and financially damage is done and cannot be corrected, as one cannot travel back in time. | Let Me Reach with Kim Saeed, Trauma Dumping: When Venting to Family and Friends Turns Unhealthy, 8 Disturbing Reasons Narcissists Stay Friends with Their Exes, Narcissism Is Not Neurodivergence: Why We Need to Stop Grouping Them Together, 4 Types of Trauma Narcissists Inflict On Valentines Day. You mentioned that you believe he has blocked you, but if I were in your shoes, I would make sure that I had blocked him from all forms of communication. It wouldnt surprise me if hes already doing that now. I miss my son so badly. So to all of you who are struggling, there is hope, there is a way out of the dark, over time you begin to love yourself more and you will see the light. However,researchsuggests that when a person is going to kill themselves, they dont talk about it; they just do it. Remember, they are narcs and only care about appearances. Mine definitely sees me as his saving grace and fought hard to have some kind of contact with me. He was unable to take criticism and would devalue my feelings and input about the relationship if those feelings made him appear wrong in any way. I seem to remember saying to you a few weeks before we left school that I needed to be away from and also take a step back and really look at how I felt about you and our relationship. A few reasons why people want the narcissist to hoover. (!). Leave him to his misery. So please go no-contact and set yourself free, i am living proof that it works, even 6 months after i felt little sorrow in knowing she was getting engaged. Knowledge is power! I see that he runs with other narcs, and victims like me. But its only temporary because they soon return to start the cycle all over again. Wow this letter sounds like my soon to be X, Kevin! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Answer (1 of 35): Really? Even at sixty five she turned heads. When the next argument arises and it will, you will be devalued and discarded and its all your fault. She brought it up, and seemed happy that she was going to be sending me half of it. Im learning a lot with you. My reply to this comment of yours, came up as a comment to Kim. lol Not as easy as i first thought. They might be able to help you with healing resources, and will certainly be able to help with your tendencies to self-harm. So now i did not hear from him clearly. Love is not pain! I had left my narc on a not good note. I think disordered women make far better/effective liars then men in general, so the pain can be even worse for a male victim. Her mom and I have let her know she is not alone and this is HIS problem. Get out now!. So true,although I am still not sure whether mine is a narc or BHD,I am still in love with the fantasy and now reality has hit home.He has pushed me around and even made me get out of the car and walk home,miserable and depressed most of the time ans says the most demeaning cruel thing,he now want us to be just friends and have solo holidays,it goes on and on continual devaluation and yet I am still hooked,like a drug addiction!!! I have some new answers and new pride in myself. Click Image to Order via Amazon. Hes above the law and honestly theres no justice when dealing with these mental idiots. After Then I got the silent treatment, he bought me a birthday gift put it in my back door but still would talk to me. lol If I had replied to the song he would have been excited and asked for a call. "Apologizing" for their behavior. We had a very loving relationship, but it didnt stop him from being manipulative and verbally abusive when he felt hurt or angry. I needed support for the situation with my mother. All of these behaviors youve listed are par for the course. I am creeving a lost dream. Yeah, just going to reiterate the splendid answers your received, and add my own flavour: I was involved as a lover and friend of a BPD for 8 years. I have a protection order but he doesnt care. I got extremely frustrated with his ambiguous, incoherent behavior, his cavalier attitude and thought he was acting in a cowardly manner and told him so. He cant dupe me anymore so he leaves me alone and fears me now. Its like I need more proof that he is a monster or isnt. He wants nothing to do with me now. I wish you well, my brother. Let me know hey. i knew that but this.. and just now? He texted saying he was glad he got to see me and for the most part enjoyed his time. There was never any financial links/obligations between us. If he made these threatening statements, you never know if he will make good on them. Unfortunately, once you learn none if it was real, you cant help but wonder why you ever trusted them in the first place. Theyll try and convince you that your friendship would be perfect, you might not have worked out as lovers, but youd sure make the best of friends. This is my first encounter with a narcissist. Always playing the victim card. The mind fuckery The future faking The list is endless. it had become so defining, or at least had become a thing that I was constantly engaged with even though my interactions were full of stress depression anger when I went NC I found the emptiness hard to cope with, looking then at my newly ostracized place outside of the community I had up till then freely enjoyed I was now even bereft of the abuser and in a way I was so lonely that I missed even that utterly perverse I know, Now having had this denouement where his approach and my acceptance of it has kind of taken the substance out of my circumstances the definition was clear and easy before I had just felt too that I had come to terms with everything and was getting on getting on. They fear strong women. But it became a pattern where I felt like crap for whatever reason with her put downs etc. I so desperately needed this. So now i am back at day one again. Any advice would help. Yess creeving time is gone. & they want it for themselves, They will literally destroy you, slowly & painfully to get it, Would the fresh start include reparations with all the people the narcissist and his sidekicks directly contacted privately to point out this or that smearing observation about me in fact in this area they would have to contact the national grouping of those in our shared sport of hang gliding as at one point my personal communications with a support forum were found by him and then published publically in a national forum so this fresh start, does that include some sort of national statement to repair that damage? In my opinion one of these should be renamed. This man bullied me while I was pregnant to the point of me vomiting and having massive panic attacks, breathing into paper bags and begging God to end my life. The narcissist has no real identity, only an illusion of themselves built on their ability to control other people. Sadly, it often works. I thought nothing of it at the time, as I was just being myself. Now another gold ring is been missing and he denies it. it makes me sad.. i pitty him but he can use this agains me when the monster comes back. Message received, zero distortion. FAST and PRAY That gets Gods eyes on you. Nothing great about it. and all because of the one & only CRIME we are all GUILTY of. I lost contact with all other family members. The red flags were there from the start. The only value this guy must have is that he hasnt called her out yet and she is manipulating him more than she was able to manipulate you! I feel like an idiot now, but the penny only really dropped for me about 5 months ago, about who and what Cameron really was. If anyone is in denial its him. Speaking as a woman who was ripped off of about $80,000 between the last two narcs/sociopaths I was involved with and who sweet-talked and seduced me and played Prince Charming so well they fooled everyone initially and then left me devastated and Im still suffering from PTSD and on meds years laterwell, it just doesnt seem fair to read what you wrote. At least there is a surface-level apology. He asked about the equipment and we definately didnt talk about anything personal. He brung sun where their was so much darkness . Adding girls on fb, the porn everything. He does recognize there is a problem with his lack of empathy and admitted to me he fakes that emotion a lot. That includes pulling on the heartstrings, pleading, appealing to your compassion. But it still hurts. At that point, thats the one thing the narcissist can never take from you againno matter what he or she decides to do after that. Acting as if we are barely acquaintances. Id been waiting since then to get another call from him to threaten me in some way over the damn freezer but nothing since then up until this past weekend. My heart is holding on for dear life, even tho I dont want to! Wow!!! It will only be a matter of time before he does this again. If some of my friends and colleagues were in the mental health profession, then why was my disorder not detected? No response IS actually a response. No time or space for other people. And then text message that i still want to have peace with another. Some of the stories she told people about me, made me seem, cheap, needy, aggressive, highly emotional or flat out crazy. At least I hope! Thank you. I was told by a female lawyer friend of mine that I have more than enough in my text messages to and from her concerning the exchange of the $3,000 to win in court. You know what hell she put me through. So please let me know when you get home and I will call you back. And i know in my mind what i SHOULD think say and feel. Then says, Im going to look into one bedroom appartments and that he just wants to make sure we can work out before we move in ETc. He lies and lies and covers with excuses and tries to deflect blame. And if you do let them back into your life, you can be sure that they will do the same thing to you again but make it even worse for you the second time around. Also a person who I do not know personally contacted me and told me I was brave to return. He is very matetialistic, but about to lose everything because of his lack of accountability. So all we have to do now is learn to Love Ourselves as much as we Loved them without them. And is now in the begin fase of that other one both very happy. It doesn't matter that the contact was negative - they got you to respond, which was their goal. Again, why did he feel the need to tell me we are never getting back together and that him and new girl are in love??? I need the help and pushed the other friends faraway. He was emotionally and verbally abuse telling me to shut up, the world would be a better place if I couldnt talk. They whip themselves into a frenzy because they need your supply to maintain their false image. You suffer from PTSD/C-PTSD, Trauma Bonding, Stockholm syndrome, crippling self-esteem, and depression. But on the other side.. Think about that before you break NC. He will never make a good partner with anyone and is destined to go through life never knowing real happiness. They Choose to act like this !!.. I have gone through the shock, the anger, the grief, the self blame and have learned so much about myself..my strength and resilience, and ability to love. She did not lash out in extremely mean ways, or ever cut herself (from what I am aware of) but everything else screams BPD. My ex was a fullfledged NARC to the tee. He said he was enlightened by some of my comments (I told him he was turning into a dirty old man, a pervert-he didnt like that mirror at all) and still loved me wants to stay together. Painful none the less. After a nice, balanced visit to his city for a few days, I returned home to relate to a very different person. Natural Remedies for Bipolar or Borderline Personality Disorder. And while he may be deeply flawed, I believe he loves me, or tried to love me as best as he could. We talked he told me he would change . I had heard that Narcs dont know what they are but I think deep down they do. Once they know you are on to them, they will do everything possible to shut you up. Does that mean he wasnt a narcissist? when narcissist has canceririna emelyanova pasternak 26th February 2023 / in coastal carolina football camp 2022 / by / in coastal carolina football camp 2022 / by From the perspective of a narcissist, it makes sense. I read your story. I feel alive again. 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